president by setting up this command, cyber command, saying we have to defend our infrastructure, and the pentagon's infrastructure to be sure, and then we have to have capability. those kinds will help deter some of the activities taking place right now. >> i remember once interviewing a former french official who was in charge of the french intelligence operation against our splekt wal property and trade secrets, and he was very open about it as a retired espionage agent for france. thank you very much, bill cohen. >> good to be with you. >> up neck, fighting that cyber war, we talk to former homeland security chief michael cherthoff. up for an oscar and detained at the airport? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy. we've shared what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. bp's also committed to america. we support nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for ge